homg. UBER PLOTNESS.

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I think we should have a plot with North and Tall, maybe something a little dramatic.

Like, perhaps there's a little pretty she-cat flaunting herself in front of him - perhaps his new apprentice - and Tallstone gets friendly with her -- perhaps a little too friendly.

And then all the pent up feelings that North and him have come out into the open -- making them face the truth of it.

That although Tallstone is impeccably, impossibly in love with her, he can't bear it anymore -- the one-sided love they've formed. He wants to feel something other than the pain, the agony she's inflicting on him.

And for poor Cinderpaw, well, it's just like having the main parts of his world - other than, of course, Cometpaw - crumble into a million pieces. It's just as if his parents are splitting up - what with the angry screams, the unstoppable arguments and the tension building up between them - and the poor little tabby doesn't think he can take it anymore. He never thought his mother could cry, and he never thought his father could be so - very - angry.

He's breaking too, and this time, there's no one to pick up the pieces.

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This is what I sent Wazo a few minutes ago. What do you think? :3 Anyone interested in playing a role? Can you guys think of anything to add on to it? :]

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My one and only issue with it is that there's really no she-cat to flaunt in front of Tallstone. The only available she-cat in RavineClan is Morninglight and she seems a tad too shy to "flaunt" in front of anyone (let alone tear a family apart).

^^ Cinderpaw really is gonna flip off the deep end. Once he "discovers" Cometpaw, he'll really lose it, on top of all of this.

This would also make a very interesting plot for all of RavineClan, the clan now known for how close the entire clan is to one another. To have even a few of their members so torn would really shake the clan. Plus it would test Rainstar's leadership for the first time since he got sick.

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hmmmm.

What if someone could make another character?

Oh, and I guess the she-cat wouldn't have to flaunt around Tallstone too much, just enough to gather his attention. He spends all of his time with a she-cat that's his mate, but pays a sort of indifference to any of his actions. The she-cat would just have to be nice enough to be friendly; perhaps she could become his best friend or something.

And yeah, Cinder really is going to lose it. xD;; But I guess this is the entire point of this mini-plot, hehe.

Ooh, what if we made a dramatic plot for him too? Like, since he's broken and crazed and Cometpaw is turning 'bad' and thus not paying much attention to him, he becomes friendly with another she-cat. Someone who reminds him of Cometpaw, who makes him laugh and smile.

Who makes him remember what it's like to have fun.

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xD He could spend more time around Goldenwing! (Cinderpaw, that is. She's a tad young for Tallstone.)

If their more of friends, Morninglight might work, but that's all up to Wazo. And, it'd be a little weird for her to have to play two main parts of that mini-plot...

The only problem with having a "dramatic" plot for Cinderpaw is that Cometpaw would just let it happen. If she felt he was happier with someone else, she certainly wouldn't stand in his way.

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Two parts? By Goldenwing do you mean Morninglight? :3

Hmm, doesn't Goldenwing have something going on with Beestripe? haha, that might make him jealous -- though I'm not sure he's the jealous type.

But what if teh she-cat that Cinderpaw started hanging around with was bad for him - or so Cometpaw thought. What if she hated Cometpaw and constantly said things to her behind Cinderpaw's back? What would Cometpaw do then?

Would she let him be, even though he was getting hurt?

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Now that I rethink it, I don't think both she-cats would have to be of clan either.

If Tallstone became friendly with a loner and Northwind knew it, it would sort of be payback -- that's what she did to him, after all, fall in love with Castro.

If Cinder became friendly with a loner or other clan cat, it wouldn't be good for him or the clan. It might even hurt him.

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Yeah, I think Cometpaw would leave him be, even if the other she-cat was hurting him (besides physically, that is). She'd feel either A.) it was her own sort of payback for ditching her or B.) he'd have to become strong enough to overcome it himself, else how would he learn? Cometpaw is so stubborn that it pretty much has to be Cinderpaw who initiates any sort of relationship. The only way she'd ever admit her feelings to him would be if maybe he said something way out of line to her (like he most likely will after "discovering" her secret).

I think it'd be awesome if Tallstone's new she-cat was a loner. However, I wouldn't do that with Cinderpaw. Cometpaw would be so unbelievably furious, she'd want him exiled. She has no tolerance for that sort of thing. (Although most of RavineClan would make either tom choose between the she-cat and the clan, they wouldn't do it out of spite. They'd want the tom to be happy.)

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hmm. okay, I think I got it. So Tallstone's she-cat should be a loner of some sort, maybe even a rouge. hehe.

As for Cinderpaw, I think he should become really good friend's with a she-cat -- but not, like, romantically or anything. I think he should become best friends with ___ and Cometpaw would get - I think - so angry at him for ditching her and hurt by it, that she'd stop talking to him. This would, probably, be the breaking point for Cinderpaw.

He'll say something totally out of line; like perhaps, she's betraying the clan by becoming one of the soldiers and accusing her of having a 'relationship' with one of their toms.

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[Wazo]

Its probably not a good idea for me to have another main part because we want to encompass as many people as possible.

Not sure where Beestripe stands with Goldenwing, right now he is her friend because thats what she needs right now.

I cant wait to see how Northwind will react, hehe

btw, if cinderpaw hurts Cometpaw in any way or if Bearpaw thinks Cinderpaw is pursuing a romantic involvment with someone else so soon after discussing it with him, he will be hecka pissed, which might be kinda interesting.

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It's not like he's pursuing a romantic relationship, but rather trying to find someone who cares for him - not pities him or hates him, like he believes Cometpaw does - and helps tape his broken parts together. Bearpaw - I think - knows what it's like to have a family being broken apart.

ooh! Idear.

What if Bearpaw starts another 'talk' with Cinderpaw, and it ends up with them yelling? And Cinderpaw confessing his true feelings? x]

Cometpaw could overhear it, but not believe him and they could have a 'ittle fight of their own.

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[Wazo]

I think that the rational Bearpaw would agree that cinderpaw does have a right to whatever happiness he could find and not want to hinder him in anyway, but as rational as this thought is, his loyalty is to Cometpaw

i definately want to work bearpaw into this :3, hes one of my favs

also, Bearpaw doesn't really trust that many cats so for cinderpaw to spew all that and then "seemingly" go after another she-cat, Bearpaw wouldn't be nice about it

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haha, I think that would go nicely.

Cinderpaw acts happy and nice and all, but although he has really good intentions -- underneath it all, he's really just a soft, broken cat who doesn't know what to do. He's needs order in his life for the real him to exist and right now, that 'order' is a bit lacking.

xD I definitely love this plot.

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The only young she-cats we have for Cinderpaw to become good friends with would be Dreampaw and Goldenwing. I'm gonna go with Goldenwing, if Stormeh's okay with it, that is.

Here's one other thing that'll totally help push Cinderpaw off the deep end, as well as shake the rest of the clan: Hawkshadow is going to be found dead. We don't have Hawkeh to play him anymore and I'm sure she wouldn't mind if we played him into multiple plots. Rainstar can have Goldenwing take over Cinderpaw's training as he'll only need another few moons before his ceremony. That can be one reason to push the two of them closer. They just have to act a little friendlier than the usual mentor and apprentice and it'll totally set Cometpaw off.

x3 I think this'll be fun.

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yesssh. xD Uber plotness. -cackles-

Sounds like a pwnsome idear.

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[Stormeh]

This is very...uhm...interesting. xDD I'm with Wazo; I'm not sure about where Beestripe and Goldenwing stand at the moment, either, though considering how Goldenwing is, she might be prone to do some things that aren't right for her...if that helps. xP And yesh, that will be fine with me for Goldenwing and Cinderpaw to be good friends/a mentor-apprentice pair.