"Eclipse" by Stephenie Meyer

[Wazo]

for those who havn't, read Curse of Chalion, by far, one of my favorite fantasy books

and Ender's game, those are a must

[Hawky]

Well, for one, I'm probably the biggest Jacob fan in the world. But I have an amazing list of reasons why.

1) I absolutely hate Edward for leaving Bella.

2) Edward and Bella's relationship is so destructive. They are completely obsessed with each other, and when Bella is dating Edward, she completely disreguards all of her other friends. She never hangs out with anyone else. It's pathetic.

3) The only reason Bella is marrying Edward, is because.....yeah (if you've read the books, you'll know). Dumbest reason ever.

4) I hate how 'perfect' Edward is. He has almost no flaws (except being a little overprotective), and I personally love characters for thier flaws. I love Jake for flaunting this lol. He's so funny and it's obvious that he has issues, but what normal human being doesn't?

5) When Bella was 'with' Jake, she had some sort of a social life. She hung out with the rest of the pack members, and she wasn't attached at the hip to Jake, which is much more healthy than the relationship she had with Edward.

6) Being with Jake isn't putting her immortal soul in jeopardy. She want's to be changed, so that she can be with Edward forever....yeah. I hate that idea. I think that she's going to love it for what...a couple decades, and then she's going to realize she was much happier human. If she get's changed at all (which i don't think she will, honestly)

7) While Jake is a little more reluctant to give things up for Bella (a.k.a. the fight), he's much more willing to fight for her. Edward would just like...let her go if she wanted to be with Jake. For one, I would much rather be with a guy willing to fight for me than someone who would just let me go in a heartbeat the moment i decided I wanted another guy.

8) Being with Edward puts her in rediculous amounts of danger, without either of them doing anything. The whole thing with Victoria happened merely because Bella was around Edward and his family. Not to mention her going after him in Europe and the entire Volturi mess. Ugh.

but yeah, this list is getting quite long, and i doubt you want to read any more XD. But these are my reasons for liking Jake over Edward. GO WERES. i luff them.

[Stormeh]

I LOVED Twilight, but I wasn't such a great fan of New Moon or Eclipse, though Eclipse was the second best by far. I luff Edward. =3

I purchased and read Dark River and the second manga book. Dark River was AWESOME. ^^ I can't wait for the next one. The manga, however, was a bit silly... You could read that whole book in a bookstore if you just stayed for about twenty minutes, really. I'm not happy with those, though, because I don't much agree with the path that Erin Hunter has taken with Graystripe's life...as far as important decisions go. So...if you haven't read Dark River, you DEFINITELY have to get it. It's amazing. But I own every single book that Erin Hunter has created that has anything to do with Warriors, so I might just be a bit crazy... xDD

[Patmos]

Yeah, I'm starting to doubt that Bella is going to get changed too. I mean, it's been put off for about a book now. She was supposed to get changed after she graduated. All that was left was a few weeks, right? But now it's all "Oh we have to kill these guys from Seattle", "Oh Edward and Bella are going to get married", it's just getting ridiculous. I'll probably read the next book, hoping that it'll get better.

Edward and Bella really are too attached to each other. When Edward left Bella's friend Jessica was horrible to her. I'm glad Angela was still okay with Bella. Bella really needs human friends. I thought Bella and Jake had a good friendship until Jake was all "OMG I LOVE YOU AND YOU LOVE ME TOO AASDSFKFKD I DIDN'T FEEL YOU PUNCH ME LOL".

Bella is far too forgiving. She's like, completely incapable of holding a grudge. She forgave Jacob in an instant, Edward too. Can't she be like, "You left me for like 6 months I'm kinda pissed" and "You kissed me even though I'm completely obsessed with Edward and we've been dating for like 2 years now so I'm kinda pissed"?

I like the werewolves too. They seem kind of, fun. I like Emmett too though. The books need more comic relief. Quil, Embry, and Emmett pretty much provided that even though there wasn't much.

It bugs me a little that pretty much all of the Cullens have some super dramatic past. I skipped all of the wolf stories because it was incredibly boring so I have no idea why Bella's all "OMG THIRD WIFE" and Edwards all "LOL WUT THIRD WIFE?".

I'll have to remember to get Dark River once I finish The Sight.

[Wazo]

I'm not sure how she is going to be able to stretch the fourth book...she seems to be running out of plot ideas

I love Edward, but I agree with the too much perfection and that he and Bella's relationship is a bit...obsessive. What annoys me now is how the author always describes Edward's looks with the same exact descriptions all the time and how often he kisses her as if "it would be the last time" its a little redundant

Changing subject, I'm so glad the warriors books have moved away from Squirrelflight and Brambleclaw and to their kids. All Squirrelflight did was complain for two books straight and Brambleclaw contemplated his "dark past" for a majority of the books too. The original books were the best ^ ^

[Patmos]

I bugs me how the Cullens are always described as "beautiful and perfect".

I like the first 6 books too. I miss all of the old characters. -sniffles- Whitestorm...

I don't like Squirrelflight and Brambleclaw together at all.

[Wazo]

Well I love Twilight and those books, but its not like we can analyze them for their literature worth. They are pure fluff

I liked Fireheart alot as a hero and I loved the book, Firestar's Quest. Squirrelflight and Brambleclaw are good together because they both complain non-stop XD

Firestar's Quest was good too because it got away from the redundancy of the clans...WindClan is always picked on, Shadowclan is evil, and RiverClan is cowardly...has anyone else noticed that ThunderClan is unbeatable? They never lose, no matter what the obstacle or how many clans against them

[Patmos]

I love the Twilight series too but I'm just a complainer. xD

I have noticed ThunderClan being unbeatable. I think that there should be books where other clans are the main clan, instead of ThunderClan. I think ShadowClan is just proud and RiverClan minds their own business. I guess I'll have to pick up Firestar's Quest too. I'm so behind on the Warriors books. xD

[Wazo]

If ThunderClan lost a fight, that would make me pay attention. ThunderClan is too good at times, they never take advantage or ambush any other clans, all their skirmishes are for "good" or to help another clan. If they did, I think it would add more depth, all the other clans act selfishly at times. Even when Bluestar lost her mind, they never did anything "bad" although I did like Bluestar alot ^ ^, when she was sane